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19. MUZ MURRAY
Muz Murray is a world-travelling mystic master with
an international reputation, having given guidance
for many years in his “SHARING THE QUEST”
workshops—on Mantra Yoga, Mystical Awakening,
Massage and Meditation—in the UK and Europe. He
follows the way of the Universal Mystic—the Path of
the Heart—embracing the essence of all traditions,
but is attached to none.
Although endowed with the saffron robe and spiritual
name of “Ramana Baba” in India, he sees himself
neither as a ‘Swami’ nor a ‘New Age’ teacher,
inclining rather to the notion of a ‘No Age’—seeking
the teachings suitable for any age of the world,
through attunement to the eternal verities. Thus his
‘Way of Unlearning’ is a simple “Sharing of the
Inner Quest” warmly appreciated by those who seek
trustworthy guidance without bondage to any form of
cultism.
in his early twenties (during seven years of
vagabondage around the world) an unlooked-for
experience of spiritual awakening—known as ‘Cosmic
Consciousness’—suddenly occurred, which was to
transform the course of his life and consequently
the lives of many others. Some months after this
‘Cosmic Initiation’ he came into contact with a
spiritual Master who gave him his first ‘temporal
initiation’ into a mantric form of meditation called
Shabda Yoga (or the Mystical Sound Current.)
This was later followed by association with masters
of many traditions and subsequent initiations into
many forms of arduous spiritual practice and
esoteric experience.
In consequence, he became the Founder of a mystical
community in London, known as “Gandalf’s Garden”
which produced a world-distributed esoteric magazine
of the same name. The magazine and work of this
community became a spiritual inspiration to many
thousands in Britain and on the Continent during the
‘Flower-Power’ Era of the late Sixties and early
Seventies. The centre hosted Gurus and teachers of
every tradition from all over the world and
pioneered the spirit of ‘spiritual
cross-fertilisation’ between isolated esoteric
groups, which resulted in many more
universally-minded centres blossoming in its wake in
several countries.
In 1972, Muz undertook a three-year pilgrimage to
India and Nepal, travelling as a
sadhu or
mendicant monk. Besides following many spiritual
disciplines, he deepened his investigations into
Mantra (the Yoga of Sound) with Sufi (Dervish),
Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist and Tibetan Masters.
On returning to Europe, while giving workshops in
dynamic mantra, he also spent several years working
with leading psychotherapists in modern regression
techniques and founded “The Inner Garden”—a
Healing, Retreat and Growth Centre in Suffolk, where
individual therapy treatment was combined with
spiritual guidance (as featured on BBC television in
“Still Crazy After All These Years”). At the
same time he became a founder-member of “The Open
Centre” (a psychotherapists’ collective) at the
Community Health Foundation in London, where he led
Mantra and Psychotherapy intensives for three years.
In 1980, after entering into the state of
Samadhi
(or the ‘God-Conscious’ condition) he removed
himself to a hideaway in southern France for the
next few years, consolidating his inner experience
and writing his spiritual guide to survival in the
modern world—Sharing the Quest (Element
Books).
At the request of yoga groups, yoga teachers and
yoga students all over Europe, he is now teaching
the ‘Mysteries of Mantra’ and ‘The Way of
Sunconsciousness’ in many countries, undertaking a
regular mantra workshop tour of Britain during the
summer months and also leading travelling workshops
in India.
www.mantra-yoga.com
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Can you
please tell me about your first teacher?
Muz
Murray: His name was Ramamurti Mishra. He had an ashram in the
Catskill Mountains in Monroe actually. That’s New York. He was a
brain surgeon and heart specialist. He was also a mantra yogi
and he spoke Sanskrit with his family. His father was a judge
and his mother was a guru. He came from the Himalayas.www.anandaashram.org/founder.html
What
tradition was he from?
Muz
Murray: Udesin; it’s a special group from the Bombay region I
think.
You said
that he spoke Sanskrit, so did he teach from the Vedas or from
Vedanta?
Muz
Murray: No he taught mantra rather than traditional scripture
and he sort of turned every scripture on its head. He taught
the essence really, rather than the traditional teachings.
And when he
taught, did he also have some kind of a method? Did he use other
forms of meditations?
Muz
Murray: Well he used mantra as meditation, but he also came
from the Rhada Swami tradition. He was initiated into one of
the early grandmasters, a swami of Beas in the north of India.
That’s what we call Shabi yoga.
That’s
to do with sound isn’t it?
Muz
Murray: It’s to do with listening.
What are
your views on the aspects of charging for these teachings?
Muz
Murray: All I know is that the economic climate these days is
that few are coming to these workshops. (Laughs) I’m not sure
where you are going with this question.
Well, for
example in the tradition of Advaita Vedanta, when someone goes
to a guru, the teaching is usually given for free. And then the
student would give them a gift or something like that and the
same thing is done with Theravada Buddhism. But I’ve seen in
other traditions that they charge for the teachings. What is
your view on giving or charging a fee or donation or that sort
of thing?
Muz
Murray: Yes, right. When I came back from India, I wanted to
give all the teachings away freely, or by donation because I had
no money anyway. I had to live, but donations come in by 10
pence or half a crown and things, and I wasn’t able to live on
that so eventually and very reluctantly, I had to start asking
for something. All my life I’ve asked for far less than anybody
else has been asking, but people say in India they give away the
teachings for free and they usually were, but they don’t realize
it in India
It is the
householders’ duty to support their spiritual teachers because
it’s good for them and it’s good for the nation and it’s good
for the world. And so they bring gifts and money constantly to
keep their spiritual teachers living. And we don’t have that
tradition in the West. People think that we live like beings in
fairy tales and we don’t need any money and we don’t have to pay
taxes, or have to pay a car license or whatever. So it’s correct
to have some recompense for the teachings or for workshops, but
not for students who are sincere and who should be given the
answers to their problems or ways to answer the problems for
themselves because that is the nature of the heart of the guru
who cannot but give those souls who are desperately seeking, and
this is the natural way. The student must give something back in
return and that’s all for the good and quite often many.
These days
students are pumping the teacher and just don’t want to give
anything back which is not very helpful for many people living
in the West.
With mantra
for example, the tradition is that when a pupil is ready for
mantra instruction, he will be given a mantra and how to work
with it. Just because a guru is able to ascertain the soul
quality of the students and know the kind of students and know
the sonic frequency that would be good for his particular
spirit, but so many gurus go around the world, make a circus of
it and go around charging a lot of money that they have not
potentized themselves and they have not worked for many years so
they don’t have the power of transmission to be able to pass on
the energy of the mantra correctly. Even the great Maharishi, I
met him the same night the Beatles met him. I was sitting five
rows behind the Beatles and afterwards he went on stage behind
the curtains and talked to the Beatles and their girlfriends and
Donovan and his girlfriend and all that and then he came out and
there was a little group and afterwards I said to Maharishi,
this is not the way the mantra is given to their students, you
are taking anybody off the street, asking a week’s wages and
giving them any old mantra between the ages of 25 and 30, 35 and
40, 45 and 50. They all get the same mantra even if it’s not the
right one for them or not. And he charges them a week’s wages
and I said why are you doing that and he went hehehe, with his
famous little giggle, and he said, the Westerners do not
appreciate anything unless they pay a lot of money for it. So I
am asking them for a lot of money.
(laughter)
That was the end of the Maharishi for me I’m afraid.
But is
there actually some truth in that, that people sometimes don’t
appreciate it unless they do pay for it. They tend to look at
it as if it’s not worth anything if you give it for free.
(Laughs)
Muz
Murray: Yes well he was right in a way, but I didn’t feel that
the approach was exactly correct.
So at
that point he actually gave all of the Beatles mantras. What
about John Lennon and all of the others? I know he gave it to
George Harrison.
Muz
Murray: Yes he gave them what is called bija mantras, which are
seed sounds which he gives to everybody and then he gave lists
to the people that were doing it in his place when he wasn’t
there. And they gave the same mantra to just anybody at that
age or this age and they hadn’t potentized the mantra. You need
to work many many years with a mantra before you get the energy
of it and for the person you are giving it to, to give them the
right frequency. And this was not happening and this is why I
didn’t appreciate asking big sums of money for something that
was farcical as far as I was concerned.
END OF INTERVIEW