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AVERSION,
DEATH, REBIRTH & VANITY
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5.
JEFFREY A MARTIN, PhD
Jeffery is a social scientist who researches
personal transformation. He specializes in bringing rigorous empirical
research and testing to transformational techniques and theories that have
previously been supported anecdotally. Jeffery is a leading expert on
persistent non-symbolic consciousness (enlightenment, nonduality, mystical
experience, union with God/nature, etc.).
He holds several graduate degrees and
specializes academically in technology, psychology, cognitive science,
neuroscience, and transformative studies. A bestselling author and award
winning educator, Jeffery has co-edited, authored, or co-authored over 20
books and numerous other publications; appeared in a wide variety of media;
and lectured broadly in both academic and public forums.
Jeffery is currently the director of the Center for the Study
of Non-Symbolic Consciousness (www.nonsymbolic.org).
Portions
of his research on Non-Symbolic consciousness are also available in the
popular novel, The Fourth Awakening
(www.fourthawakening.com).
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INTERVIEW
NDM: Does an enlightened
person fear aging, sickness and death?
Jeffrey Martin: In my experience this seems to be greatly reduced, if not
eliminated.
NDM: Would an enlightened person wear seductive clothing, makeup, have
plastic surgery, (implants, Botox, liposuction), or even
color their hair
to appear younger, more attractive for their self esteem, or to attract
followers, disciples/clients?
Jeffrey Martin: I'm not sure about your reasons here, but I have seen them
wear attractive clothing, and I know of men and women who have had botox and
colored their hair. Mostly the latter seemed to be so they would appear more
attractive to the opposite sex upon, often upon becoming single for the
first time in a while. It seemed like it was done from a practical
standpoint, rather than because of internal needs (such as self esteem).
NDM :
Would an enlightened person take sleeping pills, drink alcohol, take
recreational drugs (smoke marijuana, LSD), or medication for mood control,
anxiety, depression (Prozac, or Viagra)?
Jeffrey Martin: Yes, participants in our study reported taking a wide
variety of pharmaceuticals, including sleeping pills, medication to control
uncontrollable body shaking that would have otherwise been associated with
anxiety (though no anxiety was felt psychologically), as well as
pharmaceuticals like Viagra.
ND M:
Would an enlightened person have an aversion to harsh or desolate living
conditions, isolation, desert, jungle, forest, (excessively cold or hot
weather climates), fear of wild animals, snakes, scorpions, bears, tigers,
crocodiles, sharks and spiders?
Jeffrey Martin: I think environment would mostly depend on the person, and
their preferences. Regarding fears of animals that could kill them in these
places, I suspect that their body would elicit an appropriate physiological
response to ensure their safety when such animals were around. At some
locations on the continuum, it is possible that this might be a very short
feeling of fear, at locations I would not expect that to arise at all.
NDM:
Can an enlightened person lose their temper, use foul language, or harsh
speech, sarcasm, ridicule, make off color jokes?
Jeffrey Martin: Sure, I've seen all of these.
ND M:
Would an enlightened person make a legal disclaimer for their
teachings, as to not be held responsible? (Please see example
below).
Jeffrey Martin: I think this would depend on the
individual and their legal savvy, the needs country they reside in, and so
forth. If it made sense and was practical, I don't see why it would be
avoided. Frankly, someone knowledgeable should probably put out something
like this for folks to use.
Example of a Non-dual
Disclaimer
Here’s some small-print
legal stuff that we are obliged to tell you
– it’s for your protection as well as ours.
By using this website,
purchasing or attending a one-to-one
session, attending a meeting, satsang, or
non dual retreat or otherwise engaging with
(so and so), you acknowledge that you have
read, comprehended and fully agreed with the
following disclaimer.
This website is for
general information and entertainment
purposes only. Use of this website, or
attending a meeting, non dual retreat or
one-to-one non dual session with ( so and
so ), or having an non dual email
dialogue with him, is NOT a replacement for
or substitute to face-to-face, in-person,
qualified medical, psychological,
psychiatric or legal advice, diagnosis or
treatment. ( So and so ) is not a
medical doctor nor a licensed
psychotherapist. ( So and so) does
not diagnose, cure, heal, or treat disease
or psychological conditions or otherwise
prescribe any kind of medication whatsoever.
If you think you are
suffering from a medical or psychological
disorder or condition, please consult your
doctor or other appropriately qualified
professional person or service immediately.
You are invited to consult your doctor
and/or therapist about one-to-ones sessions,
meetings or retreats with ( so and so) in
order to make an educated and informed
decision as to whether or not they are right
for you. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING OR
CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE OR FEEL THAT YOU MAY
BE A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS, PLEASE
NOTIFY THE POLICE OR CONTACT YOUR LOCAL
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IMMEDIATELY.
Never, ever disregard professional advice or
delay seeking professional advice as a
result of something you have read on this
site or from anything that ( so and so )
says or writes to you. ( so and so )
shall not be liable for claims or damages,
and expressly disclaims any and all
liability of any nature, for any action, or
non-action, taken as a result of his
one-to-one sessions, meetings or retreats.
The word “non dual
counselling” here is not used as a medical
term, but simply describes an in-depth,
honest, exploratory, private and
confidential conversation. Sessions with
( so and so ) may be considered
“spiritual” or non dual in nature rather
then therapeutic or prescriptive. A
one-to-one non dual session, meeting or
retreat is intended and designed to be
informational and educational for you, and
provide information, support and
encouragement based on information what you
choose to share with ( so and so).
You are fully and solely responsible for all
information that you provide to (so and
so), for your interpretation of ( So
and so') words and actions, and for all
actions resulting from or relating to your
encounter with (so and so)
(so and so) does not
guarantee or warrant any particular outcome
or result from your non dual session,
meeting or retreat, or other kind of non
dual encounter, with him, and makes no
claims as to the effectiveness of the
sessions.
Using ( so and so) services
is entirely at your own risk without
warranty of any kind, either expressed or
implied, including without limitation any
warranty for information given, advice, or
opinion. The services are requested by your
own choice and with your inherent singular
responsibility.
Thank you for your
understanding.
End of disclaimer.
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END OF INTERVIEW
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