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Aversion, Death, Rebirth, Vanity                        

 

 
AVERSION, DEATH, REBIRTH & VANITY

 

 

 

 

 

  5. JEFFREY  A MARTIN, PhD

 

Jeffery is a social scientist who researches personal transformation. He specializes in bringing rigorous empirical research and testing to transformational techniques and theories that have previously been supported anecdotally. Jeffery is a leading expert on persistent non-symbolic consciousness (enlightenment, nonduality, mystical experience, union with God/nature, etc.).

He holds several graduate degrees and specializes academically in technology, psychology, cognitive science, neuroscience, and transformative studies. A bestselling author and award winning educator, Jeffery has co-edited, authored, or co-authored over 20 books and numerous other publications; appeared in a wide variety of media; and lectured broadly in both academic and public forums.

Jeffery is currently the director of the Center for the Study of Non-Symbolic Consciousness (www.nonsymbolic.org).
Portions of his research on Non-Symbolic consciousness are also available in the popular novel, The Fourth Awakening

(www.fourthawakening.com).

 

 

INTERVIEW

 

NDM: Does an enlightened person fear aging, sickness and death?

 

Jeffrey Martin: In my experience this seems to be greatly reduced, if not eliminated.

 

NDM: Would an enlightened person wear seductive clothing, makeup, have plastic surgery, (implants, Botox, liposuction), or even color their hair to appear younger, more attractive for their self esteem, or to attract followers, disciples/clients?

 

Jeffrey Martin: I'm not sure about your reasons here, but I have seen them wear attractive clothing, and I know of men and women who have had botox and colored their hair. Mostly the latter seemed to be so they would appear more attractive to the opposite sex upon, often upon becoming single for the first time in a while. It seemed like it was done from a practical standpoint, rather than because of internal needs (such as self esteem).

 

NDM: Would an enlightened person take sleeping pills, drink alcohol, take recreational drugs (smoke marijuana, LSD), or medication for mood control, anxiety, depression (Prozac, or Viagra)?

 

 Jeffrey Martin:  Yes, participants in our study reported taking a wide variety of pharmaceuticals, including sleeping pills, medication to control uncontrollable body shaking that would have otherwise been associated with anxiety (though no anxiety was felt psychologically), as well as pharmaceuticals like Viagra.

 

NDM: Would an enlightened person have an aversion to harsh or desolate living conditions, isolation, desert, jungle, forest, (excessively cold or hot weather climates), fear of wild animals, snakes, scorpions, bears, tigers, crocodiles, sharks and spiders?

 

Jeffrey Martin: I think environment would mostly depend on the person, and their preferences. Regarding fears of animals that could kill them in these places, I suspect that their body would elicit an appropriate physiological response to ensure their safety when such animals were around. At some locations on the continuum, it is possible that this might be a very short feeling of fear, at locations I would not expect that to arise at all.

 

NDM: Can an enlightened person lose their temper, use foul language, or harsh speech, sarcasm, ridicule, make off color jokes?

 

Jeffrey Martin: Sure, I've seen all of these.
 

NDM: Would an enlightened person make a legal disclaimer for their teachings, as to not be held responsible? (Please see example below).

 

Jeffrey Martin: I think this would depend on the individual and their legal savvy, the needs country they reside in, and so forth. If it made sense and was practical, I don't see why it would be avoided. Frankly, someone knowledgeable should probably put out something like this for folks to use.

 

 

Example of a Non-dual Disclaimer

 
Here’s some small-print legal stuff that we are obliged to tell you – it’s for your protection as well as ours.

 

By using this website, purchasing or attending a one-to-one session, attending a meeting, satsang, or non dual retreat or otherwise engaging with (so and so), you acknowledge that you have read, comprehended and fully agreed with the following disclaimer.
 
This website is for general information and entertainment purposes only. Use of this website, or attending a meeting, non dual retreat or one-to-one non dual session with ( so and so ), or having an non dual email dialogue with him, is NOT a replacement for or substitute to face-to-face, in-person, qualified medical, psychological, psychiatric or legal advice, diagnosis or treatment. ( So and so ) is not a medical doctor nor a licensed psychotherapist. ( So and so) does not diagnose, cure, heal, or treat disease or psychological conditions or otherwise prescribe any kind of medication whatsoever.
 
If you think you are suffering from a medical or psychological disorder or condition, please consult your doctor or other appropriately qualified professional person or service immediately. You are invited to consult your doctor and/or therapist about one-to-ones sessions, meetings or retreats with ( so and so) in order to make an educated and informed decision as to whether or not they are right for you. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING OR CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE OR FEEL THAT YOU MAY BE A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS, PLEASE NOTIFY THE POLICE OR CONTACT YOUR LOCAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IMMEDIATELY. Never, ever disregard professional advice or delay seeking professional advice as a result of something you have read on this site or from anything that ( so and so ) says or writes to you. ( so and so ) shall not be liable for claims or damages, and expressly disclaims any and all liability of any nature, for any action, or non-action, taken as a result of his one-to-one sessions, meetings or retreats.
 
The word “non dual counselling” here is not used as a medical term, but simply describes an in-depth, honest, exploratory, private and confidential conversation. Sessions with ( so and so ) may be considered “spiritual” or non dual in nature rather then therapeutic or prescriptive. A one-to-one non dual session, meeting or retreat is intended and designed to be informational and educational for you, and provide information, support and encouragement based on information what you choose to share with ( so and so). You are fully and solely responsible for all information that you provide to (so and so), for your interpretation of ( So and so') words and actions, and for all actions resulting from or relating to your encounter with (so and so)
 
(so and so) does not guarantee or warrant any particular outcome or result from your non dual session, meeting or retreat, or other kind of non dual encounter, with him, and makes no claims as to the effectiveness of the sessions.
 
Using ( so and so) services is entirely at your own risk without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including without limitation any warranty for information given, advice, or opinion. The services are requested by your own choice and with your inherent singular responsibility.

 

Thank you for your understanding.
 
End of disclaimer.

 

 

 END OF INTERVIEW